Transportation

Update on Permanent Locke/Herkimer Bumpout

By Ryan McGreal
Published August 20, 2013

In yesterday's article about all the new zebra crossings Public Works has been painting across the city, I mentioned that the temporary bumpout that was installed at the southwest corner of Locke and Herkimer in June has been replaced by a permanent raised-curb bumpout that is smaller than the temporary one.

New permanent bumpout, southwest corner of Locke and Herkimer
New permanent bumpout, southwest corner of Locke and Herkimer

RTH contacted the City and Martin White, the city's traffic engineering manager, responded via email to explain why:

The "old" bumpout designed by Traffic staff was designed to be as large as possible and minimized the amount of space available to vehicles and maximize the space for pedestrians.

The bumpout being constructed today was designed by the school board (and approved by the City) as part of their site plan redevelopment and is a more moderate design between vehicle space and pedestrian space.

The bumpout being constructed has been in the works with the Board and the City for over a year and precedes the current design and activity at Herkimer and Locke.

So there you have it. It's too bad they couldn't modify the existing design after the temporary installation proved that a wider bumpouts works. That is, after all, supposed to be the point of pilot projects.

Ryan McGreal, the editor of Raise the Hammer, lives in Hamilton with his family and works as a programmer, writer and consultant. Ryan volunteers with Hamilton Light Rail, a citizen group dedicated to bringing light rail transit to Hamilton. Ryan writes a city affairs column in Hamilton Magazine, and several of his articles have been published in the Hamilton Spectator. He also maintains a personal website and has been known to post passing thoughts on Twitter @RyanMcGreal. Recently, he took the plunge and finally joined Facebook.

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By jason (registered) | Posted August 20, 2013 at 15:37:55

Sorry, I don't buy it. So who exactly can plan the streetscape in a given neighbourhood? I would love to do mine. Does Cadillac Farview have authority over all its surrounding streets? Does McMaster/Mohawk?

What's the point of a planning or public works department if some other agency can trump them??

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By Rimshot (anonymous) | Posted August 21, 2013 at 09:15:34 in reply to Comment 91101

Next thing you know, we'll have architects convinced that they know better than Public Works.

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By jason (registered) | Posted August 26, 2013 at 09:37:37 in reply to Comment 91141

My 9 year old daughter knows better than Public Works.

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By Robert D (anonymous) | Posted August 21, 2013 at 21:41:53

So this big "victory" was something that the schoolboard decided needed to happen anyways?

Well, time to stop patting ourselves on the back and choose another intersection to target.

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By Pxtl (registered) - website | Posted August 25, 2013 at 19:00:31

The city has really jumped on this. Knock-down-stick bump-out has appeared at Marion and Longwood where all the highschoolers cross (try to ask a teenager to go out of his way to cross at the light... just try it). The odd part is that this one overlaps with the bike lane. I'm curious to see how the city will reconcile the bike lane and the crossing, both very highschooler-relevant transportation features.

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By Ryan (registered) - website | Posted August 25, 2013 at 20:45:09 in reply to Comment 91364

I've been following this, thanks for an alert RTH reader on twitter. I'm going to post an article about it tomorrow. The short answer is that they've moved the knockdown sticks to cyclists can ride through them on the bike lanes.

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