By Ryan McGreal
Published December 18, 2008
Last week, I came across a great comment on the Skyscraper Page about the failed deal to combine a new Education Centre with other civic amenities at the corner of King St. W. and Bay St.
This part really tickled me (reproduced with the permission of its pseudonymous author):
The Board of Education is too small.
Geez, do like they do with their kids, just add a bunch of portables and put them in the parking lot and give the staff who are affected by the loss of parking availability a HSR pass.
Subdivide some of the larger offices and board rooms and use a sliding wall like the gyms that are converted to autoriums. If you have a big meeting, just rent or borrow a meeting room at Hamilton place or the Art Gallery. ...
By Grassroots are the way forward (registered)
Posted December 18, 2008 22:30:26
Yes, I am in agreeance with that, why not? Great rant!!!
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By Capitalist (anonymous)
Posted December 19, 2008 09:39:01
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By A Smith (anonymous)
Posted December 19, 2008 12:32:10
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By seancb (registered) - website
Posted December 19, 2008 13:02:50
"peak oil", as a buzzword, is a reference to the production of oil peaking, and while price increases (or more accurately, volatility) are a symptom of us reaching the peak of production, "peak oil" does not mean endless rising oil prices.
We will be seeing huge fluctuations while the systems we've built try to deal with the problem of steadily declining availability of crude.
Don't be fooled by recent price drops. Do you think $34 is the "norm" and we've returned to that for good? As radiohead put it, "nice dream".
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Capitalist,
You keep hijacking unrelated threads to push your agenda about peak oil, but whenever I respond (or when anyone else responds) to your comment, you fall silent, only to pop up somewhere else a few weeks later with the same refrain. See, for example, this thread:
http://raisethehammer.org/article/792#co...
I've already addressed your argument to death and you never replied to my previous comment, so I can only assume you're here to troll rather than to engage in civil discussion.
However, you do make a valid point that it's worth another update on peak oil, oil prices and the global economy. I've been working on something that should be ready in time for our next issue in early January.
A Smith,
Your concern troll is charming but unpersuasive. If I recall correctly, your aside about the Great Depression rested on some really shaky correlations that made sloppy use of data (failing to take into account a changing base when comparing percentages of total spending) and failed to establish a plausible path of causality.
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By Capitalist (anonymous)
Posted December 19, 2008 15:08:03
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By Capitalist (anonymous)
Posted December 19, 2008 15:25:06
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By jason (registered)
Posted December 19, 2008 17:59:22
Amazing. There are people smart enough to know how to post on a website, yet not understand the correlation between oil prices and worldwide recession. wow.
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Capitalist,
You're shadow-boxing.
I've already replied several times to you to explain, in straightforward economic terms of supply and demand, why oil prices have been falling for the past six months, including linking back to articles from as early as 2005 predicting that oil prices would super-spike and then collapse after those high prices forced a global recession.
Yet you flat-out refuse to acknowledge these arguments, choosing instead either to attack a straw man by ignoring both the substance and the citations of what I wrote, or to fall silent, only to trot out the same discredited claims a couple of weeks later as if I hadn't responded to you.
In fact, I wrote, "If you are aware of another economic theory that does a better job of predicting and explaining the run-up and collapse in oil prices, I'd like to hear it." I never heard from you until today, when you posted a new comment with your old refrain as if our previous exchange had never taken place.
I recognize that everyon's busy and I don't expect you to reply to every comment, but when you post a new comment on an issue that we have already discussed, it's disingenuous for you to pretend that our previous discussion never happened.
At the same time, I've also acknowledged that RTH is overdue for a new article on peak oil, oil prices and the global economy.
However, like you I have a job and only limited time to devote to this site, and several hot local issues have dominated my time and energy for the past few months.
By all means state your opinions and make your case - that's why the site is structured the way it is - but do it with honesty and civility.
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By A Smith (anonymous)
Posted December 20, 2008 05:54:33
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By Grassroots are the way forward (registered)
Posted December 20, 2008 10:36:06
A Smith: I think there is a slight flaw in your thinking, as the stimulus cheques were given to the elite of the business world, the ones that caused much of the mess we see today and not to the people, those that are struggling.
Your right though it is not about supply and demand, it is about raking over the people, to drive down wages, to eliminate benefits and pensions, to give the ruling elite more and more, while making the people have less. It is a drive to the bottom, yet the elite are still getting their bonuses and their free money from the taxpayers.
It is a manipulation, it is corruption, it is disgusting that those who have the most, want more, yet they are never held accountable.
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A Smith, Capitalist,
I have written an in-depth article about peak oil, falling oil prices, and the global economic crisis.
http://raisethehammer.org/blog/1183
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By Barber (anonymous)
Posted December 18, 2008 16:24:10
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