Comment 115608

By mdrejhon (registered) - website | Posted December 10, 2015 at 18:44:50 in reply to Comment 115603

"Another concern is that people who have too much time on their hands are going to recreate more. I know that I am more prone to producing greenhouse gas emissions recreating than working."

This is not going to be a major concern as highly developed society are in danger of a population decline. Just look at Japan and France as examples. The telecommute opportunities occur in highly developed societies, and not necessarily poorer countries which are often more fertile. The overworked worker, trying to pay bills, often just has no time or mood to reproduce.

If the goal is population decline, we leave behind an awful lot of Detroit-style degradations occuring in many developed cities simultaneously. We need to strike a balance somewhere while meeting the obligations to limit human-accelerated climate change.

We need to work on many billions of concurrent mini-initiatives to go a little greener, whether it be farm methane, automobiles, coal power, oil dependance, or whatever threatens our planet long-term. Who knows? Maybe future new government-subsidized telecommute initiatives (mandated and forced upon us by a binding future climate change pact) that may eliminate 10% of car-commuting. That begins to be significant. Maybe other methods will happen (e.g. removing carbon from atmosphere instead) as offsetting instead -- or any number of other possible changes to mitigate climate change.

We have little pressure these days but with all the weird weather, and unseasonably warm December weather we are now currently witnes It's really easy to just go along our way in our suburban life. Even in the best case scenario (limiting to a 2C raise) snow is going to be rare occurance in Toronto by 2075. We may have our first snowless winter in Hamilton in less than a generation.

Unfortunately/fortunately (in a way) we are one of the countries to benefit the most from the human-accelerated climate change because of our northern latitudes and we may have far more climate migrants (in 100 years from now) trying to enter Canada, desparately like today's Syrian refugees. Some regions get colder, other regions get hotter, weather patterns change, a lot of it natural, but it is currently being human-accelerated. Incidentally, we are miraculously able to run a swimming pool party at our house this weekend outdoors. It's been so warm and balmy this month that I can just reheat the pool overnight, and swim once a month this late in the fall and probably into the early winter (we plan to run the pool one more time before Christmas as the 14-day forecast appears to still have 10C temperatures in it!) -- that our pool is not even closed for the season yet! This is saying something about the climate weirdness going on today here. One day, we will have solar/heatpump to do the heating for us. But unfortunately, there are countries who are completely underwater in 75 years even in the best-case scenario, and New York City spending multibillion dollars on dikes, etc. This does not even account for the worst-case scenarios. We are stuck on a path to a very damaging best-case scenario, and we aren't even very sure we'll even be able to limit ourselves quickly to the best-case scenario. But we have a responsibility to limit climate change.

During multiple cycles of climate summits (the next one or two after Paris) it's possible by 2050ish that we'd end up getting legislation forced upon us, eliminating gas heating may become mandatory, with widespread clean heating/AC initiatives (e.g. mandatory subsidized installation of heat pumps). I'll just end up having to pony up my dollar for that, if I'm still alive then -- eventually increasing climate change legislation is going to affect all of us. Much like how home coal heating was banned long ago (we still have our old coal chute door), and soon we might be forced to go to clean methods of heating/AC, in a path to become a net-zero country. Yes, natgas is pretty clean and better to burn it than let it vent, but once we've eaten the low lying apples, there's going to be a lot of hard pills to swallow to successfully hit net-zero country-wide within a century or so.

So every little bit helps, although there's a carbon cost to running the data centers that permit telecommuting. Fortunately, they are rapidly going green (Many major data centers such as Google/Apple/Facebook are increasingly powered by efficient computers and solar/wind).

Even if some don't believe in climate change, Arnold Schwarzenegger, of hydrogen-powered Hummer Car fame, has a good rebuttal for climate deniers: He doesn't care if you don't believe in climate change: "Arnold Schwartzenegger doesn't 'Give a Damn' what you think about climate change" (PopularScience.com). Very good rebuttal. In the lines of, we must prepare anyway, just in case.

This RTH article is, admittedly, a very tiny drop in a massive ocean, but everything on the table, I say!

Comment edited by mdrejhon on 2015-12-10 18:59:20

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